briggs and stratton hard to turn over
symtoms are hard to crank over. The flywheel, on the above engine, isn't retained by a nut...the top of the crankshaft is tapped and the f'wheel is retained by a bolt/washer. Briggs & Stratton has over 12,000 servicing dealers in our network. I have to agree with the Kholer fans. This is done because of the compression release arm on the cam. I have the air cover off and when I turn it over gas sprays out where the air should go in. E-mail sent.If further help is needed, PLEASE CREATE A NEW THREAD.This thread is getting too populated to serve as a discussion platform now. I have watched the valves with the cover off, and both valves are moving strongly on their respective strokes. If I let it set over a couple of days I have to prime it with carb cleaner. Does this torque figure apply to an engine with the BOLT, as opposed to a nut? The engine turns over very slowly and usually just stops after about a half turn when trying to start on battery voltage alone (either its own battery or when jumped to a non-running car). Open the engine's hood and find the spark plug on the right side of the Briggs & Stratton Quantum 6.5 HP engine. Put the rod back in and set the valve lash after torquing the head back down. Does anyone have a manual or any helpful advice on whether this is something I could tackle?I'm fairly good at fixing things, I used to rebuild pumps for a living and have done a lot of my own mechanical work.My e-mail is sra4137@netzero.com Thanks if you can help. Manually turning the motor over is VERY difficult. See if it will turn either direction.If the engine turns a bit in either direction and then stops, you need to pull the valve cover and inspect for something wrong there first. Today I did comp test w/ only 30psi....should be around 120 on 3 yr old engine. BUT, Walt, your email keeps rejecting me. If the engine will turn over easily and hiccups, won't rev or make power or just won't start, then you may be looking at a fuel supply problem and you need to read the article on basic fuel system and carburetor repair. ". replaced headgasket on 17.5 briggs. I don't know, maybe I'm adjusting incorrectly - It's seems difficult to determine what is 1/4" beyond TDC.I also suspect the compression release is not working correctly but I don't how to check it. My understanding of the compression release for these engines is that it is driven by the exhaust lobe of the camshaft--that a small bump on the exhaust cam briefly lifts the exhaust valve during the compression stroke to relieve compression pressure. Start the engine. Am I correct? Briggs And Stratton was first mentioned on PissedConsumer on Jul 20, 2008 and since then this brand received 161 reviews.. Briggs And Stratton ranks 124 of 543 in Landscaping and Gardening category. Hard to pull, hard to turn over, but if it does start it will run pretty good because the oil finally gets up there. it will turn over but wont fire. Later model briggs and stratton have a centrifugal decompressor built into the camshaft, this has a habit of self destructing. ... with the Briggs and Stratton Intek V-Twin. Hey Gents, Ive been all over the web and on forums hopefully this will be the wnd of the maddness haha.. If I were to follow the above instructions, and insert the key flush, or above the face of the f'wheel, the bolt/washer would push the key down, flush with the face of the f'wheel. I guess the .003 to .005 was a range, not a absolute. If you have already spun the engine with the plug removed, and expelled the oil from the cylinder, it is safe to try cranking the engine to see if it will start. Come join the discussion about articles, computer security, Mac, Microsoft, Linux, hardware, networking, gaming, reviews, accessories, and more! When it was running, did the engine make any unusual noises like a knock, or rattle? If one or both are loose remove both rocker arms and remove both push rods to see if one or both are bent due to backfiring. I have a Briggs and Stratton 17.5 Power Built it turns over real hard. 21 hp intek plus b&s (could not determine model etc on engine, shroud, inside of hood). Bought used riding mower w/ engine trouble. Will not run out of choke. My 17 hp ELS has been hard starting from the the got go. Could be stuck ring , or just tired ? after putting tne head gasket and putting back together it now backfires thru carb and oil coming from muffler . I have done this many times, but the engine continues to resist starting. Tried everything me and 3 neighbors could think of. I've got a cub cadet with a 21 hp intek model 331877-0036 type G1 code 1012282D. Briggs and Stratton parts are fairly popular so you shouldnât have a hard time finding a spark plug for sale. I have a Briggs & Stratton 14hp OHV model No.287707 Type.1224-E1 Engine, Yard machines tractor. Now the hard part to turn is about half a turn and even if I get past that part the starter can only turn the engine to the other half of the turn and stops on the hard part. Winter problem solved. This is the position we start from, as recommended by Briggs and Stratton. Valve Adjustment, Compression Release and a Hard to Start Briggs and Stratton Engine. If the engine will turn over easily and hiccups, won't rev or make power, or just won't start, then you may be looking at a fuel supply problem. check it, will punch a hole in crankcase if it gets between the balance weight and case. I need the valve adjustment procedure. Briggs and Stratton engines are known to develop a few common issues, such as the engine overheating or smoking, the engine not starting at all, and the engine running poorly during use, states the company. Thanks for the help folks! The B&S manuals in some of my stuff like my generator and wood splitter call for straight SAE 30 WT oil. OK. Ran fine before, wasn't a LOT of fuel in the tank and it was stale, but just doesn't seem to want to Lite. Took the fly wheel off not knowing it didn't have points and condensers. Check valves for proper valve lash setting or obvious worn seat or cut valve . Time to go back to the Vidalia Onion Forum. You may want to pull the shrouding to get a good look at the leak so that you perform the correct repair. I continued to have compression release problem. I tried to jump start it and melted the positive battery terminal, insulation on the positive b ⦠Good engine oil is a caramel color. Never had these troubles and figures try to give it TLC to run better and now won't start.. Any suggestions appreciated! If so, may hafta do a carb overhaul (cleaning) unless you have disturbed the flywheel.. You might need to clean the oil off the spark plug (or just buy a new one) as oil fouled spark plugs can sometimes have trouble tossing a spark across the plug air gap. If your snow blower still doesnât start you should consider taking it in for service. I tried using my power drill to spin it and that didn't work. I can send you a Service Manual for your engine IF you like. The starter bumped but would not spin the engine. i recently purchased a used Murray riding lawn mower...it worked awesome with no problems i stored it for 3 weeks...i quick jump (battery died due to weather)...and started right up...BUT I DID NOTICE WHEN I STARTED it, THE ENGINE I SAW SPLASH OF LIQUID SHOT OUT OF THE FRONT (NEAR SPARK PLUG AREA...i stopped and attempted to restart...it started..no problem...ran for about 10 minutes on med idle....then i started to mow, when after 15 minutes...started to struggle then white smoke then off......i waited a few minutes, started after 5 minutes white smoke and OFF...in the past i had that problem, someone said to check oil take some out....and it was fine.....now the oil level was fine....but i noticed my muffler or the exhaust pipe (which is LOUD) was pretty much off (couldnt tell cause because heat shield was holding it in place- didnt have tools with me to check it out...would this be a problem for oil residue coming out? I don't even have a plug installed, and I have to use a long socket wrench just to turn it. If this is the problem replace the needle valve and seat [if applicable] in the carb and install a fuel shutoff in the gas line. Try a different brand of spark plug and fresh fuel? remove the spark plug and crank the engine, do not stand in front of the engine as you may get sprayed with gas. I have read many posts on the forum about adjusting the valves, and I have adjusted the valves. will apply. Here is a link that might be useful: Link, Howdy, I've been reading this forum, and it sounds like I may have a similar problem as some of you have mentioned. Working on 25 hp Briggs and Stratton(###) ###-####1. I haven't had to adjust either of them. Briggs 17hp Turbo-Cooled Intek 311707 0132-E3 00040426. If I can get it over it rolls over to the same point again as it goes around and is difficult to turn further again. It "Pops" out of the air filter like it is back-firing. I can be reached at ogden1371@gmail.com or rgrusmc1371@gmail.com, Any help or input would be greatly greatly appreciated.. I have a Briggs and Stratton 17.5 Power Built it turns over real hard. The mower shop I bought it from said the engine only has 6 hours on it. I get maybe a turn or two but it's like the starter is working way too hard to do this. I recently worked on my neighbor's Intek engine with the same problems. I took the plug out and sprayed some pb blaster small engine tune up spray in there and it will run on that till its gone. Third step, check the ignition system with a spark tester. Make sure the oil level is up where it should be.And........expect a good deal of blue smoke out the exhaust until all the oil gets burned out of the muffler. And 8 years old don't know whether to fix or buy new. When the key is started into the keyway, gently tap the key to help it seat. any ideas? It's almost as hard to turn as the V8 on my pickup truck. New spark plug too, even placed a spark plug tester to make sure Plug is receiving power and it is. There's a simple way to adjust a governor so it works better. Valve adjustment on overhead valve engines...There is a torx set screw in the rocker arm nut (is on my 17.5hp). What should I do to fix the compression problem? I have a Craftsman riding mower with a 18.5 hp Intek Plus engine, model 31P777, Type 0348E1, Code 040310ZE.I have adjusted the valves .04 and .06 but still can't get the engine to turn over enough to fire. I had a similar problem on my yardman. they have a unit on the camshaft that opens the valves slightly on cranking to release some of that compression until that unit starts. OK here we go.I run a small engine repair shop and have run into this problem on both Kohler and B+S engines.If its a gravity feed fuel tank as opposed to a fuel pump system check the oil level. The engine is hard to start. I have a 14.5 ohv bs l/c quiet model#287707 type 1272_e1. In future better to start New Thread Bro ! They do not look like keyhole retainers. Nothing seems to help. ", "Absolutely awful", "Awful! Briggs & Stratton Zero Turn Rider Operator's Manual. Not chiding here, just saying that there is required a certain degree of experience with the "basic type" of plain feeler gauges. ... wconner5 at verizon dot net (correct format of course). A forum community dedicated to tech experts and enthusiasts. Lu... Briggs and stratton 17 hp mower gets stuck on compression Wheels drop- ping over retaining walls, edges, ditches, embankments, or into water can cause rollovers, which may result in serious injury, death, or drowning. I think I now did set up a new thread thru forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/tractor....but can't seem to find it on this site. It is more difficult to turn these engines over by hand. Turn engine COUNTERCLOCKWISE with a long rod or screwdriver inserted in the spark plug hole until the piston is at TDC, continue turning counter clockwise until the piston is 1/4 inch below TDC. Looking for detailed valve adjustment instructionsfor briggs 25 hp Intek Model #445777; Type:0231 21 ; Code#03081413. At least someone came here yesterday and posted something. I started using synthetic 5w20 year round instead of straight 30W. To diagnose this problem, you will need a voltmeter. Compression , inspect for excessive carbon on sparkplug which indicates carbon within internal engine components . The overall rating of the company is 1.4 and consumers are mostly dissatisfied.. Sounds like you got your money's worth out of it though. 2. ***"I guess the .003 to .005 was a range, not a absolute. When I put it up at end of season it was fine ,but now cant start it with all new parts. Ok. If so, mine isn't doing it. In either case, the key would be only partially located in the f'wheel groove ( about 1/4 of the key). 0 Replies 1349 Views November 30, 2011, 15:33 by adal : briggs and stratton starting problems Started by tex on Equipment Shed. Steves Fix It Shop: Briggs and Stratton 21HP Won't Crank Over Recent recommendations regarding this business are as follows: "Beware! All good info except about how push rods get bent.Neither backfire nor afterfire will bend push rods.Push rods get bent when there is a mechanical obstruction to movement in the valve train.Obstruction to movement may be due to a valve seat coming out of its bore, a valve guide coming out of its bore, or when a valve sticks to its valve guide allowing the push rod to get caught on the edge of the rocker arm ball or cup. The heading will move around when comments are made lol ! Couldn't start them w/o a squirt of carb cleaner in the plug hole because it was so hard to pull them over. Ok. Briggs and Stratton engines ect Started by adal on Equipment Shed. So in other words the engine in one spot is so hard to turn that it was causing the starter to over heat! I finally adjusted the intake a 1/4 turn more toward .003 and lo and behold the thing fired up like a new one. with my hand I relize that I am cutting off the air to the engine. You can stop when the key is just flush with the flywheel surface, or just 1/16" above it.Place washer (if used) and nut on the crankshaft and torque the nut to 100 foot pounds. "***OR.......it may reflect a number of variables including the accuracy of the feeler gauges used and the ability of the user to feel the correct clearance. Briggs & Stratton manufacture engines for smaller garden equipment â and each of their engines contains a governor. When it finally does turn one complete cycle, it backfires through the carb. 3 Replies 2218 Views October 31, 2010, 16:44 by tex : Engine problems on Briggs and Stratton I have replaced the coil and it seams that the motor is getting to much fuel because I can see gas setting in the bottom of the intake. Most of the time when I go to start it the engine tries to turn over but seizes. I suggest closing the choke fully and having the throttle open about half. I have replaces starter,solenoid,batt. In my past experience with mower engines, especially used, or older ones, they can sometimes build up carbon on the pistons inside of the motor. I've had a tough time starting mine since day one as well. But before the oil gets up, it's scored metel against scored metal, doing more damage each time. Thanks for all the info. When I try starting it,it doesn't crank the engine over only slow cranking.When take the spark plug out it cranks normal,it seems like it has way too much compression when the plug is in, any answers would be appreciated. If all is well reinstall and adjust the valves as follows. If it really isn't running, just kind of making noise/ backfiring it could mean that you have a rocker issue, loose exhaust seat or sheared flywheel key. kubota GR2100 lawn tractor transmission leak. Also adjust valves when the piston is 1/4" after TDC. I have an 18 hp ohv Intek, Family Y: YBSXS.5012.VP on a Craftsman LT1000 model #917.273396 electric start 42" ridiing mower.Thanks,Joe. -- Thomas Jefferson. Here is a link that might be useful: B&S Valve Adjustment Video. i tried to adjust the valves to .004in. It was running but hard to turn over when starting. No real compression loss to speak of but I still suspect head gasket. 01 - Spark Plug. But when I found it was a screw in the end of the shaft I adjusted the valves and it starts and runs great! Any ideas on what it might be? Your There ! Briggs And Stratton review rated 4.5/5.0 with Images: I purchased a Craftsman ZT 7000 zero turn mower in 2010. SAFETY WARNING: Whenever youâre working with the mowerâs engine, always disconnect the spark plug. In short, no leave the valve springs on the valve. Hide thumbs . Still hard? Run your finger over the oil. But I got it done. It was running but hard to turn over when starting. I decided to leave the plug out for a couple of days and try it again. I don't know if there is a difference in the length of the key depending on whether the part # has the s suffix or not.I don't recommend you try to seat the key flush to the bottom of the recessed pocket, it wouldn't stay there even if you could get it down that far with nothing to capture it.Might be a good idea to e-mail Briggs on this aspect of the operation.They have a "contact us" provision at their web site.Also, it appears that all 31 series engines use a bolt to secure the flywheel, but the torque chart refers to "flywheel NUT", so I'm thinking perhaps the term nut is simply a "hold over" from other applications.Whether the threads are internal or external does not matter, the diameter of the threads is what counts.If the threaded portion of the bolt measures to be 1/2" (or approx 12mm), the torque spec of 100 ft. lb. '' i guess the.003 to.005 was a screw in the exhaust pushrod is steel and the engine extremely... 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